Posts by Rex B13

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A voice from Sweden

by Norm in

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the swedish paper expressen september 20, 2001.. we were ordered to become americans.

the other night swedish fighter planes patrolled our skies.

according to the defense ministry this was a link in our heightened readiness towards terrorism.

Where would you be today Norm? Terrible, wicked America saves your fat behind from being a target or a prole (who works for the good of Stalin or the Fatherland) who lives in a one room shack.
You are an ungrateful jerk.

America SHOULD abandon the rest of the world to it's own fate.

Except, 99% of the population are not agreed with your own skewed views....and you know it. Just remember this: YOU would not be on here whining without the freedom given you by loyal patriots in the Christian republics that you so despise.
Hypocrite!
Rex

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"Mire of atheism..."

by Julie in

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:i welcome those of your quality of character and refusal to sink into the mire of atheism or deep cynicism, .

i found these words to be so interesting.

i have seen posts (albeit few) that discuss the bible and whether or not it is of god.

Rex B13

Yes Julie, that's a good question:

Why do you and A.F. your heads against a wall like this?

I think that I can answer that. You both have an agenda. Your agenda is to drag down any JW who spins out of the WT Borg and enlighten them as to your 'reasoanble and logical' nihilistic, atheistic view of life. Your agenda is to deny the spiritual aspects of life and to teach people that they have no hope at all of anything better than this physical existence. You both think that you somehow can 'get back' at God for not being what YOU think He should be. You are both mired in arrogance and a holier than thou attitude toward others. NO accontablity to anything or anyone....but SELF.
Rex

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"Mire of atheism..."

by Julie in

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:i welcome those of your quality of character and refusal to sink into the mire of atheism or deep cynicism, .

i found these words to be so interesting.

i have seen posts (albeit few) that discuss the bible and whether or not it is of god.

Rex B13

Why should I waste time and effort on you? All you are interested in is proving your own skewed ideas are now the correct course to live by. You keep prattliung on about 'all-loving' God yet deny His valid wrath and anger at SIN. You think that because JWs have sometimes actualy supported a correct Biblical view that this somehow undermines that correct view?
You also ignore the fact that all will be rectified in the hereafter by your JW inspired anhilationism.
If you want to judge God, then go right ahead. You accept neither the liberal view NOR the conservative view, and not even anything in-between. So your crowning achievement in figuring out why we are here is nihilistic and useless. You ignore eternity when critisizing the infinite. You want all of the answers, (now!) and to heck with 'faith'.
So be it. Think about the legacy you've left your offspring and the darkness of death. you don't really want any answers, except your own you already have.
Rex

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How was the WTC attack any different than...

by Seeker in

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...the attack on jericho by the israelites?.

yes, i know, this is controversial, but let's think about it.

we've been saying all week how the jw concept of armageddon is so horrible, for it teaches that god is about to do on a large-scale what we saw in new york and washington last week.

Rex B13

Hi Norm,
Are you now interested in becoming a real Christian? If not, I am not wasting much time with you. It is a fact that skeptical questions about anything never end. Answers for all questions do not exist.

>Hi Rex,

I see that you like a true believer is trying to "explain" away the Bible and everything else embarrassing to your "faith".

Nope, Seeker compared Jericho to the WTC attack and I was responding to it.

>As usual you fail miserably in your effort.

Where did I 'fail miserably'? You didn't deal with the info at all. Do you have no long-winded essay on the tip of your tongue?

>Amerika seem to consider itself a nation which is "blessed" by God

Some do. It IS blessed enough to have saved your Norwigs (and Europes) freedom TWICE. Many American Christians dying so that you know it all atheists would be able to slander their memory.

>and God is constantly ordered to bless it.

Nope, you are a liar.

>Now, Rex could you who have this close relationship with God answer a few simple questions?
Do you consider the WTC incident to be a blessing?

It is a tragedy. God will turn some events to the good (and many blessed events have happened since then: the love and compassion of the world and the unification of Americans as well as other peace-loving people is now apparent).

>Could God have prevented it from happening?

God can do anything except violate His own nature.

>If he could and didn't, what do that tell us about God.?

Not a thing. YOU want 'freedom from morality', to be the 'Captain of your fate', Norm. Now live with it and quit whining.

>If God could NOT prevent it from happening, what do that tell us about God? According to the Bible not even a sparrow dies without God's knowlegde.

Read the book of Genesis, Norm. The answers are there. Read the gospels and see the ultimate answer. Read Romans and learn the theology of the church. Read John and see the deity of Christ. Read the letters of Paul and see the answers to man's many problems caused by his own depravity, which is squarely where the blame for all evil lies.

>Please explain Rex.

Norm.

It does you no good apparently. But thanks for the platform to inform the lurkers.
Rex

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How was the WTC attack any different than...

by Seeker in

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...the attack on jericho by the israelites?.

yes, i know, this is controversial, but let's think about it.

we've been saying all week how the jw concept of armageddon is so horrible, for it teaches that god is about to do on a large-scale what we saw in new york and washington last week.

Rex B13

Sorry Seeker,
I do not isolate scripture and ignore the context. This is what you are doing and this is what all JWs do to a further extreme. You evidently do not want to see the other side of the coin, having made up your mind and that ends the discussion for me.
BTW, the "allowing more to live" was misunderstood, I thought you were referring to Jericho and not the WTC.
Rex

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How was the WTC attack any different than...

by Seeker in

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friends

...the attack on jericho by the israelites?.

yes, i know, this is controversial, but let's think about it.

we've been saying all week how the jw concept of armageddon is so horrible, for it teaches that god is about to do on a large-scale what we saw in new york and washington last week.

Rex B13

Hi Seeker,
Maybe you don't have a lot of time tonight? You skimmed over a lot of info in the explanation. I know it is a long essay. Do you really want any answers or is your mind already made up?

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a. The annihilations are judgments.

Right, God judged Jericho, and Allah judged America (according to the terrorists). Same thing.

Rex: Simplified beyond belief.

b. These judgments are for publicly-recognized (indeed, international and cross-cultural in scope!) cruelty and violence of an EXTREME and WIDESPREAD nature.

Right, God said those in Jericho were committed heinous crimes, and the terrorists feel that America is the Great Satan, full of infidels who violate Allah's laws.

Rex: No, we are attacked for supporting the U.N. establishment of the nation of Israel. If we abandoned Israel, we would not be a target. Are we men or weasels? Here is what begins the anti-Semitism.

c. These judgments are preceded by LONG PERIODS of warning/exposure to truth (and therefore, opportunity to "change outcomes").

Not in Jericho's case, nor in America's. There was little warning, and in Jericho's case there was no possibility for a changed outcome. Only Rahab's family was given a chance.

Rex: You didn;t read the history here.

d. Innocent adults are given a 'way out'

In Jericho, only Rahab was warned, and she immediately acted accordingly. No other adults were given even a chance, let alone a way out. Same thing with the WTC.

Rex: The account is somewhat limited in scope, is it not? You cannot say for certain and again, you did not read the history.

e. Household members share in the fortunes of the parents (for good or ill).

True in Jericho, true for any family members in the WTC.

Rex: Family from 62 different countries, none of which seem to sacrifice their children and virgins to a idol filled with fire or in a wall for good luck, eh?

f. Somebody ALWAYS escapes (Lot, Noah, Kenites)

Would be nice if God could have allowed more to escape...

Rex: Who are YOU to judge God?

g. These are exceptional cases--there are VERY, VERY few of these.

So it's OK to commit VERY, VERY few murders? Or VERY, VERY few rapes?

Rex: No, this shows the mercy God extends even to the most vile that humanity has to offer. You again failed, this time skipping the example of Nineveh.

I dunno, I don't see how his points excuse the slaughter. It really boils down to what I originally said, that those people had it coming because of their way of life. But that's precisely how the terrorists feel about America and Americans!

Rex: READ the info, open your mind, quit with the generalizations.
Rex

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In the big scheme of things, Jesus'....

by SixofNine in

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...suffering was not so bad.

his "perfection" and understanding of the situation would certainly have mitigated his suffering.. his death was not really death, not in any meaningful sense.

it was a 15 second nap, using bible reasoning.

Rex B13

Ending Cygnus the Sick's slanderous assertions:

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/hmartyr.html

Of course, you're either too stupid or too arrogant to admit you are wrong, nothing new there.
Rex

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In the big scheme of things, Jesus'....

by SixofNine in

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...suffering was not so bad.

his "perfection" and understanding of the situation would certainly have mitigated his suffering.. his death was not really death, not in any meaningful sense.

it was a 15 second nap, using bible reasoning.

Rex B13

Finally, a honest soul who doesn't kowtow to Alan's arrogant image of his own learning (yet who has no degree applicable to his claims)! No sheepskin, yet he's an expert on everything he talks about.
Hey Alan, have the evolutionists made any new Piltdown skulls lately or fashioned any drawing of 'ancient man' from a pig's tooth? LOL
Have they destroyed any dinosaur and man footprints found together?
Have they fit together any pile of bones found miles apart and at different strata lately?
Probably not,they are still trying to figure out the development of organs in a 'miraculously' short time frame without using the obvious word!!!!
Have a nice life,
Rex

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How was the WTC attack any different than...

by Seeker in

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friends

...the attack on jericho by the israelites?.

yes, i know, this is controversial, but let's think about it.

we've been saying all week how the jw concept of armageddon is so horrible, for it teaches that god is about to do on a large-scale what we saw in new york and washington last week.

Rex B13

Hi Seeker,
I agree that (at times) we do not value life much more highly than some of the other countries that are obviously rogue states. I would cite abortion as one evidence of this. However, most modern, civilized governments follow the 'doctrine of justified war' that was developed in Christian nations. Did you know that people from 62 different nations died in this atrocity?
Every major and many minor religions and non were represented. I must also note that 'Jihad' is a teaching unique to Islam (and a couple others?).

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html

This site does a good job explaining some of your questions about the various military campaigns by the Hebrews. Also, you really should take note that this constant reference to O.T. events is inspiring some anti-Seminism in this forum. I know that is not your intent but take a look at some of the responses that follow these kinds of threads.
Also, you cannot condemn a whole belief system because some of it's alleged adherents were just showing their true nature, fleshly depravity. Paul explains this quite well in Romans (7 or 11).
Later,
Rex

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"Ye shall know them by their love, one to ...

by Rex B13 in

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perhaps someone could post this on wol and at the local jw net hangouts?

you guys really need to quit comparing real christians to 'dubs.. rex.

250 disaster relief workers provide 44,000 meals in new york, washington.

Rex B13

Hi Bridgette,
What attracts you to the pagan rites, the feminist slant given to all things spiritual? Perhaps you could start a thread that explains why you favor this life?
People often do display love just because of their upbringing and other factors. I do see it more consistently in the Christian community but not exclusively.
Thanks for the honesty.
Rex